Cybernetics Allergy Advantage

[Solidus]

I have edited this advantage to be more in line with what it was originally intended for. As such, if you have this advantage, you'll notice that you aren't able to get some implants you were in the past.

This isn't a bug. It's a feature.

Altering this effected game balance with certain character types. It's been fixed.

[Shas]

Can we know what kind of cybernetics are no longer available to those with this disadvantage?

[Ptolemais]

It mostly affects the implants that people with the allergy weren’t supposed to be able to have but were still receiving.

As for specifics, we don’t generally go into those when it comes to code changes. I can say of course coms weren’t affected because we wouldn’t remove such a vital source of IC communication.

[Solidus]

If it was an implant that provided a benefit of some sort, characters with this advantage were not supposed to have access to it.

[Sephiroth9048]

Oh yay. That's..."fun".

[Ptolemais]

Did you have something worthwhile to contribute, or could you just not pass up another opportunity to inject your snarky passive-aggression into a conversation? jw.

[Sephiroth9048]

I mean, my opinion on this will be found passive aggressive anyway, Ptol. But yeah, I suppose I could add something. I find this is just a further weakening of mutants which already have far more disadvantages than worthwhile things in this game where people (typically) need chrome to do things anyway. Now as I and some others on another post were asking about how to make them better, they are further lowered.

[Shas]

This change does make sense, but it is somewhat disappointing nonetheless. With all the recent changes and current plots, I'm hoping to hear more developments of new features, instead of further restrictions upon characters that already suffer rather severe disadvantages. I know that the ability for characters with a cybernetic allergy to pack chrome such as pumps was never intended, but it is nonetheless a dearly missed capability, given how essential a pump is considered to be for almost any character.

[Sephiroth9048]

Agreeing with Shas wholeheartedly.

[Ptolemais]

This isn’t them being further lowered. This is fixing a disadvantage that applies to everyone with a cybernetics allergy, not only mutants, because it wasn’t working the way it had originally intended to be.

Most people would be optimistic that a) we are even looking into these coded things because it means we are examining with greater detail the way that mutants work and b) things occurring in game recently that very obviously suggest we do try and listen.

But if you want to get mad and instead assume that yet again we’re out to get you, then I’m not sure how much logic is going to factor into this conversation moving forward.

[Sephiroth9048]

You call me passive aggressive yet you automatically assume I am out to get you. Right. Cool. I didn't say that, and it is good that things are being looked into. However. It is primarily mutants that have the disadvantage, and...yeah, it kinda is lowering them. It's the one thing other than a clone body that could actually make them more powerful, and they were still more or less stunted -with- one.

[Ptolemais]

If you’ll re-read my post, that’s not what I said. And what I DID say was because of your attitude and your approach to the conversation. Fixing the way you approach conversations like these might go a long way towards making this game a more enjoyable experience for all of us since...you know...it’s a freaking game.

But no, it’s not lowering it. It’s fixing something that was never meant to be in the game in the first place because an ALLERGY
TO CYBERNETICS doesn’t mean you get to keep just one because we feel like it.

[Shas]

I'm aware of that. I am very optimistic about the fact that you are examining mutants in greater detail (Although Timegrinder's recent posts have me somewhat worried), and the fact that this loophole was fixed a few minutes after you realized it is quite heartening. I know you understand just how much this hampers characters with a chrome allergy, and I am sure that you have further changes in the works that I'll be happy to see, rather than bemoaning a change that has negatively affected my character.

[Pennywise]

You call me passive aggressive yet you automatically assume I am out to get you. Right. Cool. I didn't say that, and it is good that things are being looked into. However. It is primarily mutants that have the disadvantage, and...yeah, it kinda is lowering them. It's the one thing other than a clone body that could actually make them more powerful, and they were still more or less stunted -with- one.

What we do as administrators regarding code is not up for debate. It is our decision and, while that decision may or may not be viewed as positive, it is our decision to make.

The way you react to it, however, -is- your decision. That being said, you should be very careful how you present that reaction, because when we see you acting the way you're currently acting, we don't do things for you. You don't get included in plots. You might find yourself not being approved for certain advantages that require a level of trust by the administrators. You may even be banned from using certain levels of chargen.

Because you've decided to call Ptolemais out, I'm calling you out.

You, yes you personally, are at a crossroads. Every day, your attitude brings more and more toxicity to this community. It has not gone unnoticed, and it is not appreciated. You are not at the point yet where you have been deemed a terminally negative presence who should be frozen out of the benefits that other players who can contribute positively to this community despite their agreement or disagreement with topics, but you're working on it.

Which path you take now is up to you.

[Jesper]

So! In the spirit of promoting a positive change in the OOC atmosphere of cybersphere, I feel like I should chime in.

Extreme breakdown time:

This change does make sense, but it is somewhat disappointing nonetheless.

Agree with change, express concern.

With all the recent changes and current plots, I'm hoping to hear more developments of new features, instead of further restrictions upon characters that already suffer rather severe disadvantages.

Characters with chrome allergy are being promoted/highlighted, but being tuned down in relative power (to other characters) as an indirect consequence of this (agreed, well motivated) fix.

I know that the ability for characters with a cybernetic allergy to pack chrome such as pumps was never intended, but it is nonetheless a dearly missed capability, given how essential a pump is considered to be for almost any character.

Agree with change again, express concern with attempt to clarify issue; pump was providing a strong buff that is now gone, an effective nerf.

Now I want to address Ptolemais and especially Pennywise directly, in what I hope will be taken as constructive criticism because I am doing my damnedest to put it that way. Not because I am hiding my real intention or feelings, just because I think the discourse in this thread does not reflect well on you.

Where is the motivation for posting:

Most people would be..

But if you..

Coming from? It isn't the post made above. If you want to play mind-reader, assume nicer things. If you're reacting on bias of things the wider playerbase doesn't or shouldn't know, just don't post it publicly. All that was said that the change was good, but expressed concern over the effective decrease in available statpool for characters whose disadvantage set contains the tweaked disadvantage. If these threads are supposed to be open for feedback, what better input could you possibly hope for? If you expected it, then just say that or ignore it!

What we do as administrators regarding code is not up for debate. That being said, you should be very careful how you present that reaction, because when we see you acting the way you're currently acting, we don't do things for you. You don't get included in plots. You might find yourself not being approved for certain advantages that require a level of trust by the administrators. You may even be banned from using certain levels of chargen.

Because you've decided to call Ptolemais out, I'm calling you out.

You, yes you personally, are at a crossroads. Every day, your attitude brings more and more toxicity to this community. It has not gone unnoticed, and it is not appreciated. You are not at the point yet where you have been deemed a terminally negative presence who should be frozen out of the benefits that other players who can contribute positively to this community despite their agreement or disagreement with topics, but you're working on it.

Which path you take now is up to you.

I started by trying to highlight the parts of this post that I found outright counter-productive but I ended up highlighting all of it. This post is petty, attacks the player, calls them out for things that noone except administration supposedly should even know about. Why? Why did you make this post this way?

If Shas is a problem player, talk to THEM. If they're too much of a problem to talk in the forums, ban them from the forums and maybe post saying you did or something, I dunno. This post doesn't make you look good or reasonable, but it does wonders to perpetuate the idea of an administration that is petty.